What’s to be Done: On Holy Indifference Pt.1

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4 Responses

  1. Angelo says:

    Thank you……

  2. Kyle M says:

    Very good article, thank you for posting this.

  3. coco says:

    It’s really a broad topic so I put here just few hints I believe we should try to keep in mind:
    – the question of “quality of being” in regards to knowledge is indeed crucial.
    For instance, it is very well known fact from general esotericism that immoral person might not be able to progress to certain levels of cognition etc.
    However, on the opposite pole we have “mystical” approach by which it is *only* about quality of being.
    Like, if you are saintly enough, you don’t require quest for any special, particular or concrete knowledge e.g. on supra-sensible worlds.
    I think that is mistake. High level of moral being is certainly a prerequisite but not end in itself.
    It’s like, just be “good” and all else will be given to you as “natural” consequence.
    In general terms, application of such “optimistic” view on human nature and abilities is way to greatest catastrophes imaginable. Not mentioning terrible arrogance which stands behind such view.
    That is the trap of mystical approach, which, maybe was relevant in the past for some great saints, but with today’s intellectual disposition of man, one *must* seek information, knowledge and try to reach that level of being in order to break through limits of materialistically defined sphere of “legitimate” knowledge.

    Basically, I don’t think we can talk about indifference in general sense. The thing is we need to recognize that certain ideology creates some extra sensitivity on one hand and some extra indifference on the other.

    For instance, materialistically minded people will be indifferent to anything that seems too lofty and “metaphysical” to them.
    But also, some fundamentalist Christians who try to derive all knowledge from Bible would try to avoid any potential knowledge that jeopardize Bible’s supremacy, including all sorts of esoteric or scientific knowledge.
    Postmodernists will be indifferent or wildly against any notion of traditional knowledge, but will be lighted up by anything new etc. etc.

    So, we have to filter out those ideological predisposition for this or that type of information, we need to grow beyond that and try to be genuinely open and curious in sphere of cognition.

    • Mihai says:

      I don’t know if by these general hints you had in mind something particular which I wrote here – if yes, then they are certainly missing the point- but in any case, you are creating for yourself artificial hurdles in your attempt to understand these subjects of knowledge, being etc.

      For one thing, you need to step out of the false mental framework created by the modern approach to these issues- where the answer is practically compromised from the start, because you are not allowed to ask the correct questions.
      Concretely, you need to step out of considering oppositions of mystical vs scientific vs metaphysical vs ethical vs esoteric vs exoteric and so on. These stem from wrongly posed questions and are entirely missing the point.

      We need to first of all see that “knowledge” is at once one and many and it has multiple layers and different angles of approach as well as different degrees of nearing that which is absolute.

      So, for example, you wrote:

      “Basically, I don’t think we can talk about indifference in general sense. The thing is we need to recognize that certain ideology creates some extra sensitivity on one hand and some extra indifference on the other.”

      This is a good observation. The problem stems from relativizing the absolute and absolutizing the relative in most cases. I would also add here the inability to see the one in the many and the many in the one.

      But anyway, from the observation made above, you can start and make your way towards a clearer answer.

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