Obamamania & Trumpophrenia: Politics as Mental Disorder

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  1. Avatar Han Fei says:

    A good article. I take issue with some semantics here and there, but overall my mood remains supportive. Kali seems to argue on the side of moderation, taking issue with both to status quo as well as the radical movement that seeks to uproot it. Fine, there’s nothing wrong with that after all.

    In your writings you constantly mention F.P. Yockey as playing a role in shaping the alt’s ideological outlook. But I contend that he has very little influence on them, and neither do Chamberlain, Rosenberg, G.L. Rockwell, William Luther Pierce and other similar “luminaries”. It’s doubtful that the average /pol/ poster has ever heard of these names, let alone read a page of their books. This is literature associated with the neo nazi scene clustered around stormfront.org, which represents a very insignificant portion of the adherents of the alt-right.

    The core of this extreme right wing insurrectionism which seems to be gaining the upper hand right now in America, at least divorced from the traditional patriotic libertarian conservative (i.e. the “cucks”), stems from the 4chan imageboard and its culture. I do not know exactly about the situation in Europe, but I’m aware you have analogous web portals which operate under a similar principle of anonymity and inclusiveness.

    I admit that the concept of an anonymous imageboard held a grip over me immensely for a long time, and still does to an extent. It was the ultimate image of freedom, a place of discussion devoid of e-egotism and phallometry surrounding attention seeking figures associated with the regular registration message boards. It was a place where you could discuss anything without fear of being censored, but on the other hand you also had to take responsibility for what you posted from judgements of anonymous posters like yourself. It was the ultimate place to “grow a thick skin” so to speak, a necessary habit for today’s networked age. In essence it was a place where ego dissolved, and a sort of gestalt consciousness formed. This is the “magic” of the chan style imageboard. At the time I naively idealized it as the way of the future. Now I do not hold such a view, for reasons that you will find all to obvious.

    Anyway even though it would be a mistake to attribute to the chans a sole significance on the alt right movement and therefore ignoring reddit, twitter, wordpress blogs and so on, but that doesn’t change the fact that the imageboards are extremely popular and highly trafficked. Even though their population remains a comparatively small drop in the ocean of internet noise, they comprise of a group of extremely active and fanatical individuals who often leave a footprint everywhere they go.

    Because we are living in a world where 19th century bourgeois conceptions of morality and social ethics reign supreme, my views would probably fall in the ultra conservative spectrum, hence my affinity with some of alt-right’s sentiments, or at least the belief in the need for a true counter revolutionary position. But I detest at any parallels being drawn between my opinions and fascist or nazi doctrines. My influences stem from the works of Plato and Aristotle, the Arthashastra, Chinese legalist scholars such as Lord Shang and Xun Zi, Hobbes, de Maistre, H.T. Buckle and Max Weber. I have studied Carl Schmitt’s theories on the effective use of political power as part of my bachelor’s degree thesis. I believe in a strong, effective national state with a functioning legal system and independent courts, preferably under a republican constitution, but I am not averse to a monarchy. This is an ideal that is probably impossible given humankind’s innate aversion to social order and discipline, but it has been realized to various extents throughout ages of mankind. Under no means do I hold the bestial era of 20th century populist nationalism as among them. I do not hold that the state must enforce a mono-cultural social ethnos under a totalitarian model. The result of such a thing is North Korea and I most certainly do not view North Korea as a model of a paragon society.

    So there lies my problem with the alt right. From what I’ve observed over the years of participation in imageboards, seeing the metadiscussion unfold under my eyes, it was a movement that arose almost wholly out of memes. People at first took the whole nazi thing “ironically” that is to say as a joke and competed with each other to the extent of absurdity of their comments in order to generate the lulz. Hence the folkloric image of “Zyklon Ben” a psychotic madman straight out of a Hollywood slasher flick who stabs and tortures every brownskin and hook nose he comes across. That is why ridiculous people such as Milo represent the movement, thoughtlessly posing for their instagram photos with Mein Kampf in their hands, the way a vapid bimbo does with the work of some Indian guru. There is no coherent alt right position on the economic and social issues except “kill all the Jews”. Their idea of drawing up and separating all the white peoples from the nonwhites is laughable and impossible to realize, especially given the fact that the alt-right utterly rejects the biological sciences that would define and categorize human beings according to hereditary phylogeny, and believe me such an outcome would NOT lead to what the alt-right desires to achieve. In that case certain ethnicities would turn out to be more “white” than the racially mixed Germanics or Americans. Even Hitler allegedly did not believe in the extremes of such idiocy.

    The election of Trump illustrates what I’m talking about even deeper. All of a sudden this aging, obese man, whose entire career consisted of essentially cosplaying a Simpsons character, a half comical satire of the Americanism’s lowest traits, became some sort of second coming of A.H. an embodiment of every single masculine and “alt-right” virtue, a titanic figure who will make anime real and Warhammer 40k America. That’s not to say I totally disavow DJT’s role as a politician, speaking of yet at least, but the ideological underpinning of the whole movement onto the bombastic persona of Mr. Trump only goes to show how little bearing in any serious doctrine or discipline the alt right truly possesses, and yes, that even includes the Crowleyan LHP that you bring up so often.

    Given that, your entire analysis of Satanic intellectual influences on the alt-right, I view, with utmost sadness, as arguably an attempt to give a chaotic, communal gestalt some kind of face and meaning, because it represents the only coherent rationalization of the movement towards any kind of identifiable orientation. That is why certain voices such as as Styxhexenhammer666 (an openly Satanic political analyst, whose youtube channel holds some leverage with /pol/) try to steer the discussion towards SOME kind of politically viable and relevant subjects, regardless of whatever ulterior motives you might ascribe to such a figure.

    With that in mind I would strongly insist that Kali ceases wasting time excessively analyzing the alt-right, which I consider to be a very contingent phenomenon connected with the current electoral cycle in the United States. You should not continue to chase after flies while ignoring the elephant in the room, which is the continued erosion of civil and constitutional liberties, the systematic destruction of traditional communities conducted under the guise of “scientific agriculture”, the artificial fabrication of perpetual conflicts in ethnically unstable regions of the world, the expansion of a totalitarian global surveillance state which no longer merely observes everything, but tries to manipulate and to use the odious Cass Sunstein’s term, “nudge” the end user into behaviors specified by aggregate targets of social engineering, the creeping dominion of global corporate technocracy over all spheres of social and political life of peoples and nations. All of these things are most certainly not affected by Mr. Trump’s election and highly pending presidency. Even if you continue to analyze the “alt-right” as some kind of significant political phenomenon, I suggest you should only do so from the perspective of the current global trend, that is to say, continue what you were doing before you set yourself onto this task.

    • Avatar Malić says:

      In your writings you constantly mention F.P. Yockey as playing a role in shaping the alt’s ideological outlook. But I contend that he has very little influence on them, and neither do Chamberlain, Rosenberg, G.L. Rockwell, William Luther Pierce and other similar “luminaries”. It’s doubtful that the average /pol/ poster has ever heard of these names, let alone read a page of their books. This is literature associated with the neo nazi scene clustered around stormfront.org, which represents a very insignificant portion of the adherents of the alt-right.

      I use Yockey because he was one of the first to give coherence to what I call post-Nazi anthropology and philosophy of history, together with some others like Savitri Devi (note that Arktos publishing people call themselves “men against time”). Although you’re probably right, I have to point out that influence of ideas does not imply being conscious of them.

      Other than that I wholeheartedly agree with this statement:

      The core of this extreme right wing insurrectionism which seems to be gaining the upper hand right now in America, at least divorced from the traditional patriotic libertarian conservative (i.e. the “cucks”), stems from the 4chan imageboard and its culture.

      And this is why I insist on LHP. While you could well be right about me anchoring the interpretation in the post-Nazi classics because I need a firm grounding where there is none, I focused on LHP fairly consciously from quite the opposite reason: this kind of thinking is in fact an attempt to erase any kind of firm footing in philosophical, existential and ideological sense. As such it represents more a mode of existence or the way of living than some kind of “philosophical” school. The way I see it, it expresses the very essence of what it means to be postmodern and it is, as a (un)mindset present in the heads of luminaries from David Myatt to Alexander Dugin. I will write extensively about this and will take their reverence of Heidegger as a starting point. I’m after all a philosopher myself and cannot help but pick and choose to interpret what I’m qualified to interpret. Consequences of Myatt’s and Dugin’s interpretations of Heidegger are completely identical , for instance. As for material influence, I accept every criticism, yet again I have to point out: the influences are not necessarily accepted consciously and in the case of LHP “sinister manipulation” presupposes duping anybody holding any kind of principled, that is: firm, belief or standpoint. This is present in the work of most of the alt right leading intellectuals and it is absolutely essential to understand what Dugin is doing. But, as I said, I’ll provide detailed explanation in separate analysis soon.

      Even if you continue to analyze the “alt-right” as some kind of significant political phenomenon, I suggest you should only do so from the perspective of the current global trend, that is to say, continue what you were doing before you set yourself onto this task.

      That’s exactly what I’m trying to do. I think it will become clear in the near future why I anchored analysis in alt right – to be specific: Kek phenomenon and chans – but this is all terra incoginta of an emerging situation and some intuitions about the connection between technocratic globalism and emerging technocratic populism I must keep to myself for now.

  2. Avatar Mihai says:

    A good article and a good analysis on the current trends that are going on today in the American alt-media sphere.

    On the other hand, I think I would side, at least partially, with Han Fei’s commentary regarding the Alt Right, although I would view things from a different point of view.

    Namely, there are 2 things that bother me at present:

    1. Aren’t we also falling into a trap thinking that the liberal-globalist establishment has simply collapsed just a week after their chosen puppet lost the elections? I mean that is exactly what the “millenniarists” claim. And not only them. Just a few days after Trump won, you get Dugin giving his valuable guidelines about the collapse of globalism, the de-localised liberal oligarchs and the swamp which needs to be drained.
    All this makes no sense. Something so infiltrated in all aspects of western society like the current globalist ideology and its agents cannot simply fall after an election.

    2. All these are merely tendencies which are happening on the internet. While I agree that the internet has, unfortunetly, a big influence on reality today, still it is easy to overestimate things.
    Americans will have to answer to this question, but if I would take a week’s walk through the US, through urban and rural areas alike, how likely am I to actually meet an alt-righter? and how many of them?

    On the other hand, the fact that someone who has, until now, posted articles in which nothing that happened in the world was to be taken as it seemed (and also interviews with people suggesting that the Giza Pyramid is some kind of super-cosmic-weapon) now all of a sudden talks about occam’s razor in relation to Trump, well that simply proves the low level of discernment in these spheres and your article is spot on regarding a probably deeply rooted problem within the modern western mentality- especially American (though, again, I am in no position to express a definite opinion on this).

    We must be prudent, though. Like said in my previous article, the powers of the air don’t care about left and right.

    • Avatar Malić says:

      A good article and a good analysis on the current trends that are going on today in the American alt-media sphere.

      On the other hand,

      I noticed that with each new comment of yours this “on the other hand” moment I know will hit me inevitably over the head, gets closer to the “good article” moment at the beginning, ha, ha.

      1. Aren’t we also falling into a trap thinking that the liberal-globalist establishment has simply collapsed just a week after their chosen puppet lost the elections? I mean that is exactly what the “millenniarists” claim. And not only them. Just a few days after Trump won, you get Dugin giving his valuable guidelines about the collapse of globalism, the de-localised liberal oligarchs and the swamp which needs to be drained.
      All this makes no sense. Something so infiltrated in all aspects of western society like the current globalist ideology and its agents cannot simply fall after an election.

      I wholeheartedly agree that globalism was not defeated and that this is an illusion built in the minds of Trumpoprhenics. And that’s precisely the reason why I focus on it: if you were perusing social networks you would’ve noticed people literary going mad. I’m talking about very polite, hard working people and just about most scrupulous researchers I know of. Reading their arguments with dissenting voices started to resemble observation of animal behavior. I’m obliged to analyze this shift in perception because, after all, one could argue that when we talk about illusion we are indeed describing perceptions and not anything substantial. Global populism is a new name of the game and I’m very certain that sooner than later we’ll be able to see that it fits globalism like hand fits the glove. However, we’ll have to wait a bit.

      2. All these are merely tendencies which are happening on the internet. While I agree that the internet has, unfortunetly, a big influence on reality today, still it is easy to overestimate things.
      Americans will have to answer to this question, but if I would take a week’s walk through the US, through urban and rural areas alike, how likely am I to actually meet an alt-righter? and how many of them?

      Like I wrote in answer to Han Fei, maybe we should entertain the notion that “memetic revolution” and swarm mentality it produced – like in the instance of “pizzagate” – was not so spontaneous initially. If this is the case, then whatever happens in the social reality has to come out from cybernetic sphere, because that’s the ultimate medium for memetics and chaos magick – it is an ultimate fringe. And it seems to me that zeitgeist is now shifting in the direction of fringe, where moving from fringe to center becomes a kind of archetype for successful implantation of memetic virus into system. Note that Alex Jones is going mainstream and together with him the whole of “conspiracy culture” at least in the symbolical – memetic – sense. The question is: could it be that this is not entirely accidental?
      Already in the December of 2015 I noticed that, for instance, Climate Change was going out of the scene. A lot of delusions that fueled doctrines as sustainable development simply got old. Could it be that they are now being reinforced in another way, a roundabout way?

      Anyway, there is a shift now and I can’t ignore it. Where will it lead is hard to tell, but KT would not be worth it’s salt if this shift would remain unrecognized.

      As for Gyza death star guy et al, that’s a tragic example of people parroting the words without getting to thoughts that caused them, let alone the realities they dance around. I remember him describing Plotins’ “One” as an infinite empty space. I shudder to think what he has in mind when he pronounces “in the Name of the Father, Son and the Holly Spirit”.

  3. Avatar Silents says:

    Interesting reflections,

    Chaos magic and such occult streams certainly seem to be a phenomenon that is increasingly visible in public. We all know that the old Nazi movement was partly inspired and directed by occult groups. Hitler’s own interest in magic was outright satanic.
    (See, for example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic:_History,_Theory_and_Practice . . . . and a review by US military satanist Aquino: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/0578024578/R35BA6XY67BON/ref=cm_cr_dp_mb_rvw_1?ie=UTF8&cursor=1 )

    So it is not surprising that orders like O9A have flirted with postnazism, whose rise in turn is accompanied by the same dark occult influences as in the old days.

    Ominously, one of the most prominent AltRight figures today is highly enthusiastic about the occult purpose of the Third Reich.
    (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7bak_Q1THiA)

    He seems positive about the Stanford Research Institute, which I suspect was one of C.S. Lewis’ inspirations for the satanic and transhumanist N.I.C.E. organisation featured in his novel ‘That Hideous Strength’. Have you read it?

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